Elizabeth Smart, Please Go Back to Your Harp and Missionary Work. You Don’t Represent Victims of Trauma

“… it’s still somewhat startling to see Ed and Lois Smart talk about how quickly Elizabeth recovered from her ordeal.

“The first couple of days was about all it took,” Lois says in the interview. “After that, she just slipped back into her place and it was almost as if she’d never left.” ~Salt Lake Tribune

If Elizabeth Smart says she recovered in only two days after having been kidnapped, tortured, raped four times a day, threatened with death, and forced to watch repugnant sex acts for nine months, then she is a liar, or her mother is. She and her family have no right to say she represents survivors of trauma and abuse. This girl and her family make rape, isolation, kidnapping, and death threats out to be ‘nothing to get yourself worked up over’ and it’s a slap in the face to true victims.

There is something very wrong about Elizabeth Smart and her family. I hope they go back to their lives, stay out of the media, and shut up about healing from trauma and abuse because they know nothing about it.

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Salt Lake Tribune

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14 Responses to Elizabeth Smart, Please Go Back to Your Harp and Missionary Work. You Don’t Represent Victims of Trauma

  1. All_Black says:

    Yet another article with a another small insight into what happened on her return, Smart’s mother said in this recent interview:

    “Even so, there were times when the pain of her memories cut deep, and Lois would say, “You can get through this, Elizabeth” etc

    [http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/50924048-76/elizabeth-smart-lois-mitchell.html.csp?page=1]

    There’s a lot more to this story than has been made public, however it’s about privacy not conspiracy!

    • Alethea says:

      “Even so, there were times when the pain of her memories cut deep, and Lois would say, “You can get through this, Elizabeth” etc”

      This tells us nothing. It even sounds a bit contrived. When her memories cut deep? What is that? “you can get through this” is very superficial. It’s like saying, “Keep your chin up.” Where are the signs that Elizabeth suffered from trauma and abuse while she was away? I have never read anything from her camp about panic attacks, nightmares, anxiety disorders, stomach aches, headaches, PTSD symptoms, physical problems, abnormal fears, hyper-vigilance, anger problems, etc.

      I no longer think Elizabeth Smart’s “ordeal” was that horrific.

      I also don’t think she is an inspiration, or of any help to true victims who suffer. Quite the contrary. She and her family say nothing of depth about her recovery and how she managed to simply ‘not allow it to define her life.’ I will be posting on the booklet she helped write.

      • All_Black says:

        “It’s like saying, “Keep your chin up.” ”

        Its all we know, all that was made public. The point I was trying to get at was that we just don’t know the inner dealings of the Smarts just after she came home. We see the results nearly 8 years later, with all the love and help the family and her community gave her.

        “no longer think…ordeal was that horrific”

        Well, it isn’t as horrific as a father raping repeatedly his daughter because there’s the added burden of a violated parent-child relationship. But in this ‘stranger abduction’ case I think her first night or maybe first week was horrific enough, because I’m sure every women would panic, or freeze from fright, or pass out, whatever, when you wake up at night and find this strange beaded crazy man holding a knife to your neck, then the first rape (and remember she was a very sheltered 14 year old who had never dated nor gone to the mall alone with friends etc) but sure it’s not as bad nor the same as incest. So therefore I’d imagine that its easier for someone like Smart to recover from her ‘ordeal’ than it is for a victim of repeated abuse and incest to recover from theirs.

        ps, I’m still not getting any notification of follow-up comments via email.

        • Alethea says:

          Hello. I don’t know why you aren’t getting notifications. Are you certain you clicked on the button that requests them? The next time you post a comment, see if there is an option to do this. If not, post a comment on another one of my articles and see if the option to receive notifications comes up. Click it and then see if you get a notice of my response to that one. If not, I will have to look into it.

          Thanks for letting me know.

        • Alethea says:

          But the point is that *all we know* and *all that has been made public* is that she is fine, never needed therapy, and wants other survivors of trauma to believe that they too can do as she has. THAT is my biggest issue with her. If she is not fine, then she needs to come clean or stop telling others that they too can be fine. If she is really truly fine, then she needs to be much more specific on how exactly she has managed to be fine. And she ought to educate herself on how many survivors of trauma and on-going sexual abuse ARE NOT fine and that whatever she did to be fine is not going to work for most people.

  2. All_Black says:

    Another article that is both relevant to this discussion and your concerns over Elizabeth Smart is:

    “The Elizabeth Thomsen Case:
    Smart’s dad: Teen needs time to heal
    Abducted Utah girl’s father says normal routine is key
    By BRIAN LIBERATORE ”

    [http://www.brianliberatore.com/clips/psb/clips_psb_thomsen_2.htm]

  3. All_Black says:

    There’s an interesting article in today’s deseretnews that I believe is relevant to this discussion. I suggest you take a look at it, but its only a suggestion.

    [http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705363360/Elizabeth-Smart-case-shows-best-and-worst-of-religions-influence.html?pg=1]

  4. All_Black says:

    Seems you don’t want to hear good news or anything that show’s her recovery quicker than yours.

    What if it is true? that in her particular case and situation ie of being kidnapped into a separate world and circumstance and it ‘only’ lasting 9 months, could result in almost full recovery in only a few days. Note that, as an analogy, not all combat vets suffer the same PTSS and some seem to not be affected at all while others never recover fully.

    Now I’m not saying that there aren’t long term consequences (she seems odd and stiff sometimes) but that she, reportedly, slipped back into normal life. Remember that on the one year anniversary of her return her parents were interviewed on cbs early show and the mother said “she’s recovering” when answering a question about therapy. It would seem that they haven’t made public all the details involved in her “recovery”.

    • Alethea says:

      Good news I don’t mind. Ridiculous comments is what I have issue with. I also have no problem with someone who truly experienced terror, isolation, and trauma recovering faster than me. I do however, have a problem with someone who tells people who have suffered rape, on-going sexual violation of the mind and body, death threats with a knife, and mind-control that they can wave it all away like a pesky fly. ‘Recovering faster’ is quite different from a two day miracle recovery.

      “What if it is true?”

      If it is true, it would be a scientific and psychological miracle. If it is true, then she should tell other survivors EXACTLY HOW she managed to miraculously recover in two days; instead of offering silly cliche’s that don’t heal anyone. And don’t give me ‘her faith has healed her’ bullshit because there are countless victims and survivors who also love God and have deep faith, who suffer greatly.

      “…not all combat vets suffer the same PTSS and some seem to not be affected at all while others never recover fully.”

      It’s PTSD, not PTSS.

      “Remember that on the one year anniversary of her return her parents were interviewed on cbs early show and the mother said “she’s recovering” when answering a question about therapy. It would seem that they haven’t made public all the details involved in her “recovery”.”

      Then her parents are hiding the truth for their own gain and making many incongruous statements. I think they like to look like the faithful golden family when it suits them. They do this to the detriment of those who truly suffer from the after-effects of trauma and rape.

      Either she recovered in two days or she didn’t either she had therapy or she didn’t. We never get the entire truth. So until they are absolutely forthright, they need to go back to their lives.

      • All_Black says:

        -“miraculously recover in two days”

        It was ‘get back into normality’ after speaking all day the ‘thou’ and ‘thine’ BS. We don’t really know to what extent she recovered fully in two days or two years.

        -We call it Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome; not everyone uses the US’s PTSD

        -Its not always an either this or either that. Sometimes people are chatting and don’t want to disclose full details to the media. However, the Smart story was so extensively covered that either the family took part in the public discussion about the kidnapping and her life after coming home or others controlled the discussion and added their own theories, as they did when she was missing. But in that public discussion obviously not all details are public, eg, the medical reports or any STD’s have never been made public nor should they. The extent to which she spoke with a psychiatrist in counseling sessions was also not made public, only referred to briefly in that cbs interview and on Oprah.

        -We or rather people keep ignoring the positive effects and influence that a strong loving family has in these types of cases (the stranger attacker ones not the incest or abuse cases). I think it plays more of a role than what we give usually credit it with.

        -on another note, I keep selecting the ‘Notify me of follow-up comments via email’ but I don’t get any notifications. Can you check that out so I can keep up with the conversation.

  5. Andrea says:

    I disagree with you on this one. This girl was raised in warm, loving family who openly displays the full spectrum of emotion without apology for doing so and had provided a solid foundation for her prior to the kidnapping. Her father openly spills tears whenever speaking of the details of her abduction – to this day – and both parents have shared openly in her pain. Not to mention the benefit she has had from her many siblings. There is a tendency within the human psyche not to carry the need to cry when others are doing so for us. There is a tendency not to harbor an attachment to our pain when others are bearing it for us. This is the absolute best type of therapy available to victims of trauma – the knowledge that they have been vindicated through the full sharing and acknowledgment of their pain and the understanding that others feel their pain as deeply as they do – and can quickly replace years of psychotherapy. I experienced it in my own life and recovery and know the power that sharing in kind can have in overcoming years of pent up anger, rage and yes, pain. Shawn Hornbeck is another whose recovery was greatly benefited from having parents who were ultrasensitive to his abduction, as well as having had a tight, loving bond to his family beforehand. Cody Posey is another who was fully vindicated by the knowledge that others believed in his right to be free of abuse and I believe he has done quite well in moving on, also. There is a form of cognitive therapy for which one needs no license and for which no license can be obtained and this is the best example of it.

    I have experienced this sort of almost instantaneous healing when dealing with a young girl who I once had custody of following years of abuse at the hands of her mother also. In her case, because she was so guarded against me and afraid of displaying her emotions, it took me 6 months to get her to simply crawl up on my lap and let the years of hurt come out in the form of gut wrenching wails in which I joined in fullheartedly and honestly. When her crying finally came to an end, so did all the uneasiness and behavioral problems she had had. She was 12 at that time and is 41 today. She has never had a need to seek out counseling other than an occasional therapy session for situational stress in all these years despite the fact that she jumped at any movement within the room and any sound made outside of it for those first six months that I had her – her fear of being struck without cause being so great. I can only reason that if we had had the bond that was established at six months when she first came to live with me, we could have had the same results and healing almost immediately.

    • Alethea says:

      Andrea, thanks for the comment.

      You might consider the Smart family to be warm and loving, but some poeple, including me, see them as very strange, controlling, and even as loving the spotlight of the media. However, even if they are loving and warm people, none of that can heal trauma like Elizabeth Smart supposedly endured. It certainlly helps, but it does not magically transmute nine months of captivity, rape, fear, and mind control.

      “There is a tendency within the human psyche not to carry the need to cry when others are doing so for us.”

      Oh? Where do you get this from?

      “There is a tendency not to harbor an attachment to our pain when others are bearing it for us.”

      No one can bear the pain of another person. The subconscious mind is where the suffering, trauma, and pain is being held. No other human being can control the subconscious of another person.

      “This is the absolute best type of therapy available to victims of trauma – the knowledge that they have been vindicated through the full sharing and acknowledgment of their pain and the understanding that others feel their pain as deeply as they do – and can quickly replace years of psychotherapy.”

      Sorry, but the subconscious does not work that way.

      “I experienced it in my own life and recovery and know the power that sharing in kind can have in overcoming years of pent up anger, rage and yes, pain.”

      I am curious to know what you went through as a child? There are different levels of trauma, as I am sure you know.

      Shawn Hornbeck is far from okay. He has not fully healed by any means. I saw him in an interview lately. Do you understand the seriousness and depth of trauma and suffering that a young boy goes through from having been sexually abused by a man?

      Cody Posey was vindicated by the knowledge that *some* people believed in his right to be free of abuse, but there are many people who did not agree with what he did, and who called him a liar. He has not been “fully vindicated” inside his own mind, and I am certain that his subconscious is no where near being free of the years of pain he suffered.

      Marilyn Van derbur was raped by her father for many years, and when she finally remembered it, she was surrounded by a loving and supportive man in her life, whom she married. They had a daughter that was also extremely compassionate and loving. Marilyn suffered physically and mentally for many many years after having a husband and a daughter in her life to share her pain.

  6. Andre' says:

    If any of this is true, you have to understand that she is a victim of serious mind control and has no control over what she says or her actions. She is so broken, I cant bare to watch. Same with her family. The masonic courts/judges/cops are also the problem as is the jewish criminal media. Something is very wrong here, that they aren’t talking about. America is so mentally and spiritually broken, very much like those women who are Hollywood sex slaves, they cant think straight and have no control over their actions.

    • Alethea says:

      Andre’,

      Respectfully, there is no statements, facts, testimony, or evidence that E. Smart was under any kind of mind-control program before she was ‘kidnapped’ or that she was sexually abused by anyone in her family or by anyone in any child abuse cult, so I will NOT go there. You can have the opinion that she was abused before Mitchell ‘took’ her but without any serious indication of such, I am not going to make that assumption.

      When I speak about Smart and her parents, I am speaking only of: what she has said, what her parents and family have said, what has been put forth as evidence, what has been said by people who saw her while she was gone for nine months… and I base myself in my own experience and that of millions of other people who have suffered from trauma –sometimes less trauma than what Smart has said she went through.

      In addition, it is not the “Jewish” media, it is the Zionist/Illuminati run/controlled media. All Jews are not Zionists and Zionists are not all Jewish. The Illuminati are not all Jewish and not all Jews support the Illuminati agenda or criminal Zionism.

      Let’s please try and stay on the subject of E. Smart and not go off on these other subjects. I need my blog to be focused on child sexual abuse; not the beliefs of Judaism and not who owns and runs the media.

      I cannot allow these extended subjects as they are too complicated and often inspire name-calling and ignorant remarks.

      Thank you.

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