FLDS Women Should Have Been Tried For Child Rape

“Despite the recent well-publicized and deeply disturbing child molestation trial of self-proclaimed polygamist prophet Warren Jeffs, TV reality show polygamist Kody Brown and his trendy wives and family seem to be everywhere these days. Their TV show, “Sister Wives,” is a big hit. They are constantly sought after for interviews and talk show fodder, and are even up for an Emmy nomination. It seems like every time I turn on the television I am seeing or hearing stories about their “…unconventional — yet somehow relatable family.” Unfortunately, that type of terminology, which is doled out in heaping portions by the media, has a dramatically different meaning for me than for others who seem to have been smitten by the show.”

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“In my world, unconventional doesn’t mean four mommies showing up for back-to-school night; the FLDS do not send their kids to public schools. If they’re lucky, the children may receive the equivalent of an eighth grade education before being sent out to work on a construction job, or to become mothers themselves. Admittance into the bride pool can begin within a few weeks after a child’s twelfth birthday. “Mother” is the person who raises and nurtures you as a “daughter in Zion” over the course of those short formative years. She then takes you by the hand and places it in the hand of a man decades older, in an arranged “spiritual sexual union,” alongside that man’s several or many other “sister wives.” That’s what I call unconventional!”

“Unconventional?” That is rape in my book! The FLDS women who handed their underage daughters over to male church elders, and who sometimes stood by and watched while the child was being raped, should have sat on trial with Warren Jeffs.

Many people, like “Dr. Drew,” “Dr. Phil,” and others, have defended the mothers as “victims” and as being “brainwashed.” Those women are no better or worse that the women in families of incest who turn a blind eye to the rapist husband or boyfriend, or who stand by and watch their child being raped and do nothing. They are no better or worse than the countless women who virtually offer their child over to their husband because they are tired of having sex with him.

Why have the women in the FLDS church been excused? Because they wear matronly dresses with collars up to their necks? Because they walk around with a bible in their hand, grow their own food, or shun the so-called “sins” of mainstream society?

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26 Responses to FLDS Women Should Have Been Tried For Child Rape

  1. little nel says:

    The term “sister wives” is by definition, incest.

    So let me ponder this: They practice secret rites, ritualistic child abuse, and incest on a mass scale and call it “holiness” and “righteousness”?

    These people are confusing paganism, satanism, and hedonism with Judaism/Christianity. What a group of deluded people.

    What planets are they going to rule…with their multiple wives…in the hereafter?

  2. Alice says:

    In testimony it was revealed that several of his wives witnessed the marriage consumation of his 12 year old “wife”. At least three wives held her and tried to calm her while Jeffs entered her. These wives are expected to make the new brides ready for the marriage bed. Those women are every bit as guilty as the monster,Jeffs.

    • Alethea says:

      And there it is. Thank you Alice. Any woman who holds down a 12 year-old girl while she is being raped, is just as guilty of that very rape. I don’t care what kind of mental conditioning one has been put through in a child abuse cult like the FLDS, the soul knows it’s wrong. The soul KNOWS.

      • little nel says:

        These women are truly reprehensible. What kind of coven witch holds down a 12-year-old so that the cult leader can rape her?

        I bet that they are still practicing that pagan ritual on other little ones in an effort to “prompt” their god into helping Warren Jeffs get out of jail.

        This is a cosmic cult of degenerates who practice child abuse on a mass scale.

  3. little nel says:

    Alethea,
    I agree with your definition of incest. It’s the mindset of the adults involved. It’s the attitude of the adults involved. The child’s well being is NEVER considered.

    In order to prosecute everyone there has to be evidence to support the accusations. One of the first questions that an investigator asks a rape victim is, “Did he have an erection”? It’s to establish motive.

    The FLDS cult will lie in court to protect their members. Warren Jeffs would not have been convicted in Utah. He has friends there. We really don’t know the full extent of the depravity of these cultists yet. Image is a big deal to them.

    I know several women who were held down by their “mothers” or should I say “monsters” in childhood, so that their boyfriends could rape them. In every instance drugs and/or alcohol were involved. None of the adults were prosecuted because of “lack of evidence”. All the children were drugged with the exception of one.

    Of course, the children had plenty of physical wounds to support the fact that they were raped, sodomized, and injured. They were too traumatized to remember the actual assault and could not identify the actual assailant in court because of their young age.

    All the perpetrators in these cases were known criminals who had prior convictions.

    Children who have suffered severe trauma like this were placed in safe homes, given emergency medical treatment, follow up reconstructive surgery, and special therapy at the Children’s Place in Los Angeles County.

    It seems to be highly effective in helping these little victims recover from the pain and trauma.

  4. little nel says:

    I have observed the polygamists near St George, Utah. I had to find out about them firsthand, so about 20 years ago I ventured to their habitat.

    What I saw was tragic. They have no real skills. Many are born with serious birth defects. By the time these child-brides are 25 years old they have about 7 or 8 children to support. All of the young mothers that I saw looked like they were “rode hard and put away sweaty.” They look many years older than their age. The men looked worse than the women

    I saw speech impediments, retardation, low IQ’s, and disabilities that were “normal” to their lifestyle in high numbers.

    They did not appear to have critical thinking skills even though they have a strong sense of right and wrong. They consider themselves to be morally upright. Most of the them were collecting welfare to support themselves and their children. They do not pay property taxes on their homes as they keep “remodeling” to avoid finalization and tax liability.

    Some of the women had “jobs” such as housecleaning and waitress work.

    They enjoy bowling for recreation.

    It is interesting to note that they consider themselves to be law abiding citizens with only polygamy as their one exception.

    In my opinion the ones that I observed firsthand were deluded and unable to think critically. I felt great sympathy for them as I saw the lack of motivation and lack of desire for a better life that kept them contained and sequestered in their community, but they didn’t seem to be bothered by it.

    • Alethea says:

      And there were little male rape victims and group sex with Jeffs. You don’t think those FLDS women knew about all that? You bet they did.

      • little nel says:

        Jeffs was a cunning manipulative man who used his leadership position as a tool to entitle him to seduce anyone he pleased. He deluded himself into thinking that he’s entitled to children for his own selfish sexual pleasure. He’s the top dog.

        Group sex and sex with children is common in cults such as these. They all participated in some way. These women thrive on obedience to “prophets” such as Warren Jeffs. They are taught never to question the “prophet’s” guidance, so accountability is not an issue.

        They also have secret rituals that can only be attended by the elite members who prove themselves “worthy.” They attain worthiness by “special spiritual training”. This is how they sift out those individuals with critical thinking skills. It’s a process.

        The “prophets” also have a good alibi to invalidate individuals who leave when they become aware of the cult’s demonic purpose. It’s always the same excuse, “They were not good enough.” or “They failed the spiritual test”

  5. Ashley W says:

    While I think it’s horrible, I think most of these women really do believe that they are doing God’s work. These same people were raised in this culture and abused themselves. They are also majorly cut off from society and live in very insular communities. Can you imagine how hard it would be to actually receive good information in such a world? Also, isn’t it possible to be both victims and abusers?

    • little nel says:

      I think that they are all victims of a cult that uses psychological controls to decrease resistance to the cult leaders’ “out of control” sexual desires for children.

      Polygamy is the dominate theme of this cult as it sets them “apart” from the world of everyone with a different “religion.” They are the only true prophets, just ask them.

    • Alethea says:

      What if “God’s work” was the mutilation of babies, or torturing dogs and cats? Sorry, but just because someone says “God told me to tell you to do this,” or “the bible says so” it doesn’t mean the person can just ignore their inner compass that tells them “something is seriously wrong here.”

      I think that once a person has victimized another person, they are no longer a victim in the present moment.

      • little nel says:

        When a man sets himself up as a “god-prophet” who requires adoration and robot-like obedience from his devotees without any resistance then anything is OK because absolute power is destructive.

        History books are filled with horrible things that are done to the weakest members of societies when men “do what is right in their own sight.” Hedonism is not a new concept.

        We don’t yet know the depravity of these cult members. They are taught to keep secrets and they are rewarded for it.

        It takes a “special” kind of woman to hand over her daughter to man like Warren Jeffs without any resistance. These woman are not the brightest crayons in the box that’s why they are still praying for Warren Jeffs to get out of jail.

      • Ashley W says:

        People get away with so much in this country because of religious freedom. They skip vaccinations,they homeschool and teach inaccurate scientific theories, they encourage hate and ignorance.

        Look at all of the disgusting coverups by the Catholic church, this is not restricted to the FDLS. Religion hurts people and always will.

        • little nel says:

          People hurt people. Some just use religion, race, culture, economics,…etc. as an excuse to justify and continue the abuse of others.

          People get away with so much in this country because laws are not enforced or the perps are very cunning in their concealment of the crimes they commit.

          • Alethea says:

            People get away with so much because of family secrets, denial, and protection of the perpetrator within the family unit. They also get away with it because so many neighbors and outside relatives look away, “don’t want to get involved,” “don’t want to cause problems,” or just plain deny what they see in front of their face.

        • Alethea says:

          Hi Ashley. Don’t be so quick to judge those who home school. Many of them do so in order to protect the innocent minds of their children from being spiritually, morally, and mentally corrupted in public school. There are good and bad home schoolers.

          Many vaccines have killed and crippled people. Vaccines can be very dangerous and ultimately make the immune system weaker, not stronger.

          In Peace,
          Alethea

  6. pia says:

    I agree…they should be charged right along with these so-called church leaders! And, I want my tax dollars to stop funding this exploitation of the children. We as women, should be standing up and fighting for these young girls who have no voice…no say. It is horrible and disgusting.

  7. little nel says:

    These women are brainwashed into thinking that this is something that God would have them do.

    As long as they believe that child rape is OK if it’s done in the name of God, it will continue. They are victims themselves who were subjected to the same treatment by their mothers.
    This will stop when the leaders say it stops.

    Since the rape requires an erection on the part of the “elder,” he is responsible for the crime. By the way, most of these polygamists receive public tax dollars for there efforts. Under the law they are not legally married so they are entitled to welfare benefits for themselves and their children.

    Tax dollars are funding this sexual exploitation of children. Maybe we should prosecute the child protective services for not removing the children?

    • Alethea says:

      I strongly disagree Little Nel. Every person has a moral ruler inside themselves that tells them that something harmful is NOT okay. If cats and dogs were being tortured, or babies killed, or old people abused in the “name of God” then those women would KNOW it was abuse or murder. The same goes for child rape.

      For every person who allows themselves to be duped into believing something, there is a seed of WANTING to believe it. That seed is nurtured with ‘the men told me to do it’ or ‘it’s God’s will.’ Maybe those FLDS women resented their daughters, or maybe they got off on watching the rapes. One girl was raped with several women right there in the room –or maybe it was just a matter of ‘misery loves company.’ But no matter the reason for their selfish behavior, those women are NOT victims, they become abusers when they do nothing to protect the child’s right to peace, the child’s freedom to choose, and to health and well-being.

      • little nel says:

        In cults it is common for the women to go along with the dominate males’ wishes and whims. Anyone who tries to oppose the will of the leader has hell to pay. Rejection and/or death is a powerful tool when a person is dependent on the cult, especially when the cult is funded with tax dollars so the dominate leader has financial anonnimity and no distractions like a job.

        Jim Jones’ flock is a prime example of cult that funded itself with cash and benefits for the foster children awarded to them by a judge in California. Those foster children were forced to drink poison that resulted in death by that cult. Did anyone challenge the judge in that case?

        History books are full of cults that expose children to sexual “rites of passage” into adulthood by older clan members. These cults are pagan in nature and the peer pressure is powerful. Yes, the adults watch and/or join in.

        “Cones” are used today in some cultures to prepare a toddler for anal sex with adults… Legalized prostitution for 8 and 9 year-olds in Netherlands…etc.

        Paganism and Christianity have become intertwined in the FLDS cult. There is no opposition from within, so it goes on and on.

        The FLDS polygamists are morally and legally unchallenged by law enforcement most of the time. Follow the money. I would like to see an accounting of all the tax payer funding for the last 25 years by this group. Did they payoff people in high places?

        “As the head goes so goes the house”.

        • Alethea says:

          In incest families, it is common for the woman to go along with the dominate male’s wishes and whims. In incest families, if the mother doesn’t obey, then sometimes there is hell to pay. The women in incest cases are guilty of child sexual abuse, just like the women in cults are guilty of child sexual abuse. Self-protection is no excuse for a person to allow a child to be raped or watch while the dominate man rapes a child, or to do nothing about a man who has several young girls doing him sexual favors. Little boys were sometimes raped in those cults too. Why are the women excused and the men not? Jeffs was just as warped into thinking it was God’s will because of his own conditioning as child.

          Being a member of an incestuous family is no excuse, being in a cult is no excuse.

          WHY THE HELL ARE WOMEN ALWAYS EXCUSED AND THE MEN CONDEMNED? MEN WHO SEXUALLY ABUSE CHILDREN HAVE -ALMOST ALWAYS- HAD A HISTORY OF ABUSE. IF WE ARE TO EXCUSE WOMEN WHO DO NOTHING TO PROTECT CHILDREN, THEN WE MUST ALSO EXCUSE THE MEN FOR BEING CONDITIONED TO RAPE AND ABUSE KIDS.

          SOMETIMES, DOING NOTHING IS ALMOST WORSE THAN BEING A CHILD SEXUAL ABUSER.

          • little nel says:

            I agree. What is the solution? Many escapee’s have voiced their opposition to this type of incest and abuse of children for as long as they can remember. What has Law enforcement done? The minimum required.

            The powers in Salt Lake City have ignored most of these resisters as disgruntled, bothersome, and/or troublemakers because “Mormans” have to stick together. To prosecute “prophets of god” is unproductive and divisive. They can’t go after there own members and have the deeds exposed in a public trial. It would make the church look bad and the members might start to call the leadership into question.

            Politics and money are enabling the abusers that is why Warren Jefffs thought that he was invincable.

            • little nel says:

              In my opinion the women are excused because incest or rape requires an erection on the part of the man. If a woman says “no” to sex, then the man has a choice. He can ignore the “no” answer and rape the woman or he can wait until he gets a “yes.”

              When a man says “no” to sex then there is no choice for the woman. There is no sex.. end of discussion.

              • Alethea says:

                Incest does not require an erection. If a man sleeps in the same bed with his daughter for the purpose of sexual pleasure, but does not get an erection, he is still committing incest in his mind. Women who use children as sex partners certainly don’t get an erection because they have no penis. They are still committing incest. Women often abuse a child sexually, but only out of emotional neediness. Some women commit incest by their happiness in seeing their daughter being raped. If a woman stands by and watches her child being raped, but does nothing to help the child, then she is guilty of the rape. She is guilty morally, spiritually, emotionally, mentally, and in some states –criminally.

                And some women get off on watching the child be sexually abused by the man. All of that is incest, child sexual abuse, child rape.

  8. pamela judd says:

    FLDS church women should not be allowed to hand 12 year olds to elders,it is child abuse and rape,both the men and women in this church should be charged,yhey are only children,not sexaully mature,this church should be investigated,those who have handed children over charged,

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